That's a crazy story @bobiroc. I've seen people in newer vehicles on the road that don't have automatic lights on as well and it blows my mind. I don't get how people drive like that and think it's ok.I don't know. The van was equipped with DayTime running lights so those were on but I would think the dashboard would be dark so he clearly was not paying attention. Not sure why the vehicle did not have automatic headlights that come on when it is dark. I think it was one of those Ford or Dodge City vans.